Blacksmiths Forum
Recent Photos
Add a Photo
Request Password
Rated: PG
Click "Long Length " for the last 125 posts.


Chuck - Wed 05 Jul 2017 00:44:33 #0

Great Fourth Of July.

Happy Independence Day.
We had a good day. Two Grand-sons spent the day with us.
We went fishing yesterday. One neito had a super day fishing from the bank with lures. He caught a black bass and channel cat that both weighed over five pounds.
He cast a net for bait. The only things in the net from several casts were two carp of over 2.5 pounds. Caught in separate cast----No bait fish. Not good for the lake.
Having trouble grinding blades--Have developed Macular Degeneration. Right has always been the eye I used. It is the worst for this Macular deal.
All the trucks you meet on the highway, look like they have already been wrecked. Not good, but we will manage.
Everybody stay safe.
God Bless

Joe Rollings - Sun 09 Jul 2017 22:11:46 #0

Sorry for your troubles

Sandpile. As you know, I have had a lot of eye troubles, too, and just about the time you figure you are going to have to give up, you figure out how to work with the new reality.

I like to keep them going at the optometrist. Every time they slip a new set of glasses on me, I look at my wife and say....."dang! you got a new hairdo" like I have not seen her for months.

We do it with a straight face, and sometimes they seem to believe me.

No fun getting older, but maybe if you get a LOT worse in the eyes, your knives will start to look half as primitive as mine......but I'm not holding my breath....Joe

Chuck - Mon 10 Jul 2017 14:23:04 #0

Knife grinding.

JOE--I ground two knives from some 1/16" A2.
They came out alright. Not Nice but alright.
I will make something if I just make a mess. Grin.
I hope it cools down over your way. We have not been up in the hundreds for about ten days. Lord' we appreciate that,
Got some garden hoe work done this morning.
Now to the shop.
God Bless

John Odom - Mon 10 Jul 2017 16:29:19 #0


I have been out with pneumonia since July 2.

I am now out of the hospital and in a rehab facility.

I am rapidly improving. The question is how much I can get back. I will keep fighting.

Darrell - Mon 10 Jul 2017 22:14:13 #0


You can get a lot back if you just don't quit trying.
I had two strokes in January and I have gone from paralyzed on the right side to not using a cane and back in the shop making things. I couldn't hit anything when I started but now I can drive nails.

John Odom - Wed 12 Jul 2017 19:00:43 #0


I am home. Much better, but not well. I am supposed to take it really easy.

Loren T - Thu 13 Jul 2017 09:06:59 #0


Anybody heard any more about Ellen? I know she had a stroke and was selling her major equipment, but haven't heard any more.

Chuck - Sat 15 Jul 2017 00:40:55 #0


Health is wealth.---DARRELL --I am so glad to hear you are back in the shop making things. I really like your sander/grinder. Simple but durably good.
JOHN Keep plugging. Myrtle(sp) needs you.
ELLEN --I have a number here somewhere for her sister. Helen will have to find it. The last time we called we a got a message and did not get a call back.
We have been having a go of it. Helen is some better--I think just learning to live with it. She is making herself do stuff, whether she feels like it, or not.

My Macular Degeneration deal is something, I am just going to have to deal with. I have made two knives from 1/16" steel just to see if I could grind it straight. Had to look close , but they came out alright. I have handled some older better blades. Selling some kept back knives.
I have about 20 blades I can handle. Maybe by then the Eye doctors can put some better priscripted(sp) glasses on me.
LOREN T. If I can find out something I will post.
JOE--Don't step in any holes.

God Bless all of you.

Joe Rollings - Sat 15 Jul 2017 22:49:40 #0


If you need a REALLY good eye doc, I know the best surgeon AND the best cornea guy in Arizona. The cornea guy got famous by saving my right eye after an idiot surgeon nearly lost if for me. Yes, some eye docs are idiots, and my first attempt at eye surgery, I found one. The cornea guy fixed a detatched retina that not many would have attempted, and it is still good about 5 years later.

So, I have an ablation sceduled, and a kind of funny misunderstanding happened as a result;


"We have your procedure sceduled for September first, providing you take the medications perscribed, with NO mistossis.


"What is mistossis?"


"That is when you miss a dose!"


"Oh, you mean missed doses"


"what did you THINK I said?"


"never mind"

"mistossis" sounded real medical to me.....Joe

John Odom - Sun 16 Jul 2017 21:06:12 #0


S L O W L Y gaining strength.

Tom C - Sat 22 Jul 2017 11:05:33 #0

Tom C

Joe Rollings - Sat 22 Jul 2017 23:09:53 #0

Slowly gaining strength

Me, too, but I am sceduled for a shower on Tuesday....

Sorry, can't resist a gag. Here's hoping you recover quickly, John....Joe

Chuck - Tue 25 Jul 2017 23:15:50 #0

Slow business this knfemaking.

The older I get the slower I get.
BRUCE---How is Diane. Did y'alls garden make before the heat hit you?
JOE--Is Janet coaching you on how to gradually get older?

Helen is making herself go. She can barely get out of her chair, but she does and after a few steps, she bows her neck, throws her elbows out and she is off. She is busy doing some most of the day. She tries to nap in the mid-afternoon, some days she does. You see her stop, stand a bit then when the pain eases off some. She is gone again.

I seem to get slower by the week. I was going pretty good, then the eye deal hit. I have finished the ones I was working on then. I can not see a straight line but ground two small knives. Did not hear comments on how they looked crooked.
Sheath work is going to change up, More front pocket or back pack type sheaths. I made two slant/side draw sheaths today(4 inch belt loop in the middle of the sheath)It will ride straight up or slant, easy for a cross-draw. May start handling some earlier blades that I never did put guards and handles on.
Well y'all don't be so quiet.
God Bless

Darrell - Tue 25 Jul 2017 23:55:14 #0

I need 4 1/4" black iron couplings and 4 1/4" black iron street Ls. That should fit in a small flat rate box.
Would send a check if someone was willing to pick them up from the hardware store and send them.
Has anyone heard from Stephen Gensheimer? He was supposed to call me last week and now his phone mail box is full.

Buck Brown - Wed 26 Jul 2017 10:10:29 #0

Pipe fittings

Hi Darrell..........I'd be happy to send the fittings to you.
Here is my E-mail address so you can send me your shipping address:

Buck Brown - Wed 26 Jul 2017 12:03:29 #0

Pipe fittings

Hi again.......I have your fittings and will ship when I get your address.

bruce godlesky - Wed 26 Jul 2017 22:20:09 #0


Chuck, Di is still awaitin' results from Monday's biopsy. We're thinkin' it's pneumonia (shrug) She's hangin' in there lioke them hillbilly girls do :-)

I had a bunch of lil stuff to make for a customer, wreath holders, hat hooks, etc. got that all done last week, now gearing up for a run of hawks. Have 4 or 5 orders on the list.

We don't get the heat here like yall do out West. Ha dso much rain lately, the sweetcorn and taters is overcome with weeds.

The kid that won the Forged in Fire contest broadcast last evening is a cousin of mine. Heckuva good maker! Glad he did well!! We've spent a lot of time at the anvil together (BOG)

Darrell - Wed 26 Jul 2017 23:49:08 #0


thank you very much. I will be building forge burners with the parts.
I just got the high temp IR temp gun in the mail today.

Joe Rollings - Fri 28 Jul 2017 22:26:56 #0


Nope, Janet is not trying to slow me down on the getting older. I'm doing it at a pretty good clip. At least it seems to happen quicker than it used to.

If your one eye is causing that crooked vision, I have been through that a few times. I gave up on the stamps for years one time right after I beat up on a jack handle with my head and it took them over 4 hours to sew everything up.

Some years later I had adjusted to it and made stamps for several more years. When the injury first happened, I couldn't even cut a juniper branch at 90 degrees, give or take 15 degrees. Have you had the doc look at it? My Dad talked about trucks coming at him o the hyway looking like their wheels were laying down just like you did the other day, and he had had a bleeder in his eye. They got it fixed so maybe you can do the same. Or use your other eye to check for straightness.

If you are going to go for the short knives for a while, might be a good time to switch to folders. I know far more folders get sold every year than fixed blade anyway. I made a bunch of friction folders a few years ago, and they outsold the fixed blade by a LOT, and took less time to build.

I used a machinist slotting saw to inlet the handles, and got pretty quick after a while. I think if I make another batch, I will use hard maple on the handles and maybe look for a way to dye it some fancy colors 'cause it is pretty plain wood. Makes good handles, though, 'cause it will hardly ever split.

I used to make wooden pliers out of it for buffing jewelry without burning the fingers or scratching up the jewelry, and sold a LOT of them. 2 drywall screws through each side, above and below the pin to keep the joint from splitting, and never got a broken pair back for warranty.

Here is hoping that you two get to feeling more chipper soon. I have kicked the "mistossis" and will go in for ablation around September first. Most old farts are not talking about the heartbeat when they wish for more "regularity", but then I never was subject to the "usual complaints", always having more "interesting afflictions" though any of them were at all "interesting".....what a hoot!.....Joe

Buck Brown - Sat 29 Jul 2017 10:41:21 #0


You're sure welcome. Good luck with your forge.

Loren T - Sat 29 Jul 2017 11:12:31 #0

Old Blacksmiths

You know you're old when you take Ibuprofen without thinking about it, you automatically put your copper bracelets on to cover the arthritis in your elbows and you refer to what was previously your left and right knees as your good and bad knees. I read somewhere (maybe here) about a guy taking instructions from an old blacksmith when he dropped something. He bent over to pick it up and his instructor said,"Stop right there! While you're down there, pick everything up. Never waste a good bend down." I find myself thinking about that every time I bend over.

Jeff Reinhardt - Sat 29 Jul 2017 20:01:48 #0

Old Blacksmiths

Loren T, I resemble that comment:)

Buck Brown - Sun 30 Jul 2017 11:03:15 #0

Loren T

That's a good one! I can get down just fine. It's getting up that's the problem!

bruce godlesky - Mon 07 Aug 2017 16:02:08 #0

down and can't get up.

that's one of the reasons I give up the autobody bidness. Gittin' down was OK , being down not bad sometimes. But when ya just couldn't get up that was the end. Gets pretty cold down there...... At least now I can stand at the anvil or hammer or press and work.
Had a good weekend forging hawks and b&t blades. Along with cleraning up some cable billets and pattern weld billets.

Joe Rollings - Mon 07 Aug 2017 22:58:11 #0


They have a pill for that, I'm told....Joe

Loren T - Tue 08 Aug 2017 15:01:22 #0


Santa came early this year. I went to the shop at my son's house (see photo in recent photos-new shop building). Imagine my surprise to find a brand new Grizzly brand 15" planer, shaper, lathe with duplicate attachments, miter saw, edge belt sander, and the best, a 20" disc sander! I know this is a blacksmithing site, but think what you can do with that kind of equipment! Turns out that it belongs to the electrician who wired the shop and he had it in storage where he had to vacate. We are free to set it up and use it, and he can access it any time. Merry Christmas in August!

Buck Brown - Wed 09 Aug 2017 16:43:54 #0


That would be a little blue one? I've heard about them. Haha.

John Odom - Fri 11 Aug 2017 19:56:01 #0


Is our 60th anniversary. I was a broken-up kid with a scrambled brain when she married me. Myrna is the best thing that has ever happened to me.

Buck Brown - Sat 12 Aug 2017 11:06:39 #0

John Odom

Congratulations John and Myrna!

Bert - Sat 12 Aug 2017 11:14:05 #0

Congratulations John & Myrna...

On 60 yrs together. Mine & I are just rookies by comparison; 40 yrs come October. I was a grizzled old Mountain Man/Cowboy Wannbe/Motorcycle Hoodlum of 30 and she was barely 20. Always wondered what he folks thought when she brought me to dinner to meet them...

I've learned Patience, Forgiveness, Kindness & Sensitivity for others and to NEVER, EVER, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES MESS w/ HER SCHEDULE...! Not always smooth, but it's been a good 40 years overall...

Jeff Reinhardt - Sat 12 Aug 2017 11:25:41 #0

Happy Anniversary John and Myrna! I too am a rank amateur in comparison. The Rock and I met in 1977, when I was her jumpmaster. We soon started dating, became a couple, and were married in 1981. Like Bert I was the wilder side of the couple, and her folks must have been quite alarmed when she announced she was engaged to a skydiving, half crippled mechanic.

Chuck - Sat 12 Aug 2017 18:07:14 #0

No rookies at close to 40 years.

JOHN MYRNA--Congrats hang in there. God Bless
There are not any rookies when you have been double hitched for forty or close years.
I am blessed to have my Helen for 54 years.
God Bless any that can stay hooked.

Joe Rollings - Wed 16 Aug 2017 16:46:05 #0


My wife told our grandkids that we hope to be together for 75 years, and one grandaughter asked what happened at er 75 years?

Janet told her she guessed we would both be free agents after that. The gradaughter is an adult now, still laughing about the idea of us doddering into singles bars at age 95.....Joe

bruce godlesky - Sun 20 Aug 2017 17:39:59 #0


to all the old time marriages!
I been married since 1971 with a 1 year rest in between. heheh 13 the first one and now 32 to the current Mrs.G.
Just spent 8 days at our County Fair. Really anxious to get back into the shop.
Enuff people contact for a spell........ Not used to the 40+ trip back and forth either but it is fun. Seein' folks once a year is not a bad thing (BOG). Plus make some smithing contacts.

Tom C - Sun 27 Aug 2017 12:01:21 #0


Louise & I lived together for 11 years before we got hitched. That was on Groundhog's day 2002. We didn't want to rush into things, you see.

My '57 Chevy restoration project is taking a lot longer than I'd planned ( no surprise there, right?) I'm in the middle of doing the body work, which I hate. I hope to have it back on the chassis & at the painter's shop next month. We'll see.....

Meanwhile, it's time to think about Quad States.

Tom C

John Odom - Wed 30 Aug 2017 09:23:48 #0


Praying for our people there.

Alex Ivey - Thu 31 Aug 2017 00:35:46 #0


Can't imagine the grief the people in the Houston are sand suffering. Prayers for them.

Jim Poor was on Forged In Fire episode 64 last night. Lost chance for the final round due to broken blade. Wanted to see his shop and equipment but maybe he'll get to come back again.

Busy getting ready for demonstrating at the NM state fair starting on Sept. 7th. Yuall invited to come by and visit with us if in the area. You can swing a hammer to if you please. LXIV

Darrell - Thu 31 Aug 2017 18:20:21 #0


I received this today. Can anyone help?

name: Tony


I am 95 years old and I have my father's old grinding wheel. It is no long on a base, and I have ideas of how to build one.
I am needing help in locating the hardware for the grinding stone. Any thoughts on how to get new hardware/pillow blocks and handle to refurbish this tool?


bruce godlesky - Fri 01 Sep 2017 07:00:35 #0

grinding wheel.

only 2 options I can come up with are , check with some Amish or build new setup from scratch. 1/2" angle and homade pillow blocks.

Loren T - Fri 01 Sep 2017 10:50:16 #0

Forged in Fire

As a newby many years ago I was taught that you heated up a blade and quenched it to normalize the metal. Then you polished it and ran the colors until the desired one was at the blade edge, then quenched it to set it. On Forged in Fire they heat it up, quench it, and that is it. I have had more than one blade shatter in dozens of pieces when in a normalized state. Are modern alloys different or do they have to skip this step because of time restrictions? After all it is Television.

John Odom - Fri 01 Sep 2017 16:13:21 #0


I have the same question. I have been told they do tempering off camera, but I do not know.

bruce godlesky - Sat 02 Sep 2017 08:43:05 #0


they do the blade tempering off camera.

Mike B - Sat 02 Sep 2017 10:33:26 #0


I've never seen the show, but am told the blades are tempered in an oven. Might not make the most riveting part of an episode . . .

Chuck - Sat 02 Sep 2017 20:55:49 #0

Blade smithing

To normalize- take above magnetic(1325)---let cool in calm air. Best to start at 1350-60 then 2nd time at 1340- and one last time at 1325. All this is cooled in calm air down to a good dark color.
QUENCH--Depending on the steel from 1340F up to 1750F quenching in 130 oil or warm water again depending on the steel.
TEMPERING- DRAW- in oven from 300F to 400F 45 minutes again depending on the steel---
All these procedures are best if triplicated.

Stainless Steel is a different deal all together, as is any air hardening steel.

Brief but close--If you need more info you can find it on the kinfemaker sites.

Steel less than a 1/4" or an art deal. The books all speak of 1" or thicker steel.

Alex Ivey - Mon 04 Sep 2017 13:04:35 #0

Heat treating

Chuck, thanks for the heat treat info, very good.

Posted a photo of a small hat forged from a 16 quarter mokume billit. Pattern is random, don't show up to well in the photo. LXIV,

bruce godlesky - Mon 04 Sep 2017 22:16:58 #0


nice job Alex on the mokume hat!!

Chuck - Tue 05 Sep 2017 00:47:37 #0


ALEX-- Good job on the Mokume Hat.
You have the hat deal down pat.
Good everybody.

Chuck - Thu 14 Sep 2017 23:26:57 #0


Well It will be ten days tomorrow since a post has been put up.
I don't believe anybody has been that busy. grin.
I hope everybody has not been sick

Darrell - Fri 15 Sep 2017 02:03:31 #0


Well I have managed to stay busy. I got a Bridgeport CNC mill shipped in and moved into place and then picked it up with a come-along to get it off the pallet.
Still waiting for a motor to make a 3 phase converter. In the mean time someone scrapped out a ProCut 9.0 on the car rotor turning lathe and gave it to a friend
who proceeded to cut wires and strip it down to the motor. Then he found that the motor wouldn't work for his plan so he gave it all to me.
After about a week of figuring where the wires went I got it back together and made it work so now I have a working brake lathe.
Have spent my spare time organizing the shop and building another gas forge and burner, while remodeling a condo and installing new doors on the condo storage units.
Being retired is very tiring.

Loren T - Fri 15 Sep 2017 09:48:55 #0

Being Retired

When I had my shop in the 90's, a lot of retired guys would stop in to shoot the bull. I always made time to visit no matter how busy i was, mainly because in a small town word of mouth advertising is everything. I remember one guy saying that after he retired he was so busy, he didn't know how he ever found time to hold a job. He was right.

bruce godlesky - Fri 22 Sep 2017 06:47:00 #0

I like working so don't intend to stop anytime soon. Ha!
With huntin' season creeping up on us, I might/might not be in the shop at any specific time. When the mood strikes me......... One of the advantages of being self-employed.
Hope everyone at Quad-State keeps dry! Sooner or later I'll make it out there.....
Fixin' to start on winter steel supply soon. I like to make up several dozen blades and a half dozen Damascus billets before the crappoy weather hits.




Recent Photos
Add a Photo
Request Password