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Joe Rollings - Fri 27 Apr 2018 11:05:25 #0


My problem is more in eyesight. I delivered a violent attack to a high lift jack handle with my head :) a long time ago that affected my right eye and it has had both good and lousy doctoring since then, some of which destroyed it's ability to react to light.

I simply cannot make out what is happening in the weld puddle like I used to. I guess I have some other rims like the one I will be using that I could practice on, but the idea of putting that kind of strain on the thin metal of the spare tire wheel has me picturing the whole plate coming off under load and giving me a thrashing.

I have gotten more cowardly in recent years, because at my age there is a decent chance that my heirs may be using or selling what I am building today....Joe

Jeff Reinhardt - Sun 29 Apr 2018 06:52:44 #0

pivot mount on tire clutch

Joe Rollings, I would recommend using the lug nuts to hold another steel part against the clutch wheel as a geed alternative to welding to the actual wheel. That is what I did and it has worked well for many years. If you use the center of another wheel with the rim cut off, you may be able to use the existing lugs. if you use the rear hub bearing assembly as I did and then remove the backing plate and the brake drum it is pretty clean and the thickness of the brake drum is about the thickness of the second wheel center.

Joe Rollings - Wed 02 May 2018 22:58:27 #0

power hammer parts

I am working with the rear tire and wheel from a Geo Metro, which has 4 lug bolts. I took off the rear hubs which have the brake drums integral with the hubs and discovered that the splines on the lug bolts were a tad undersize to drill out for 1/2" uss threaded rod, so I drilled them, and tapped for 1/2" coarse thread, extended them a bit and will soon mount an old sprocket to the extended lugs with pipe spacers and weld a large nut to the sprocket to accept the crank pin.

Next chore is to either salvage the spindles from the Geo or turn fresh ones and weld them to a support block. Getting cranked as things come together.

Remaining major component is the guide for the hammer. Part of me wants to just go steel on steel and use a high quality grease, but another part wants to make brass gibs that are adjustable. 5/8" round brass is available for gibs and I have everything I need to make them, but doing it right is one thing and wasting time and material is another.

Any thoughts? And, by the way, thank you for your help. Nothing in this world is equal to a guy who has "been there and done that"....Again....thanks ...Joe

Jeff Reinhardt - Thu 03 May 2018 19:03:47 #0

power hammer parts

Joe, I did a take on the tire hammer ram and guides. I used 1/4" wall 6" square tube with a 5" square tube for the ram. I used 1/4" UHMWPE for the bearing surfaces. Has worked well for 7 years and just now thinking about some new poly for the bearings. I used countersunk flat head screws through the tube wall to retain and that has worked well. The ram has a 3" or so think block welded inside the open end and was plug welded from the side. That is drilled and tapped for the dies. I filled the open remaining space with drops of 2.25" by .5" flat bar with lots of stick weld.I had two of those bars extended up above the tube to carry the rollers to ride above and below the spring. If I rebuild I will probably go to a rubber bushed link as there is a clatter as the rollers bounce back and forth against the spring.

Chuck - Sun 06 May 2018 18:15:24 #0


DARRELL--- Which island do you live on? The Hawaii Island is catching it? Lava flow and quakes, bad mocus.
Not likely to let up anytime soon?
HOT and DRY here.
Planting garden--hope the heat does not turn up like it did last year.
We have had a steady high wind for weeks. Less than an inch of moisture in the last seven months. Fires keep cropping up around the panhandle.
I put a kiddy wading pool of water out(with a 2X4 in it)for the quail and pheasants, in case any wanted to nest around here.
We are closer each day to having a rain.
God Bless

Darrell - Mon 07 May 2018 03:59:48 #0

Big Island

We are about 80 miles from the lava outbreak. It is moving away from us and
the current outbreak is no danger to us. We did have a 6.9 earthquake a
couple of days ago. We were far enough away that it was simply a small shaking. It is quite a trial for the people that live in the subdivision
where the lava is surfacing. As of tonight, 30 homes have been destroyed.
The sulfur dioxide gas is quite heavy in the Leilani subdivision.
They let people in 2 selected areas to retrieve property when it is safe.

Buck Brown - Thu 10 May 2018 10:08:26 #0


Thanks for the up-date, Darrell. Knee mail up for those not so fortunate.

Joe Rollings - Sat 19 May 2018 22:33:57 #0

Power hammer stuff

To catch up anybody else who is building one, the easy way out for the drive wheel to rub the tire is an X series weld-on sprocket hub in the proper size bore for the motor shaft. The OD will be about 2 1/2" but one can bore and then turn on the lathe a 2" hole in a larger round bar and weld in the hub, if one has a metal lathe. That will get you an accurate hole for the motor shaft, a proper set screw and keyway to keep the hub on the shaft and running true.

Total price.....$12....well worth the money.....Joe

Jeff Reinhardt - Sun 20 May 2018 06:40:10 #0


Joe Rollings. The weld in hub is a good shortcut. My steel wheel to rub the tire is about 2 1/2" od so that would work as is on mine.

bruce godlesky - Sat 26 May 2018 10:57:45 #0

Decoration Day

Hope everyone enjoys this special day coming up. It's not about the celebration , it's the sacrifice paid by many.
I always attend a small visitation by the local VFW to the "home" cematery where I was raised and a lot of family is buried. Lots of memories there......
Been attending since I was a kid.

Smithing content..... getting some cable billets cleaned up I started this week. Making a run of BBQ tools, flippers and squirrel forks. Labor intensive but fun stuff!!

Alex Ivey - Wed 30 May 2018 19:50:33 #0


Sorry to say I had to cancel my registration for the conference today due to the wife's continuing cancer treatments. I thought we would be able to attend but found that it just can't happen. LXIV,

Tom C - Fri 01 Jun 2018 21:21:44 #0

Sorry to hear you can't make it. I was looking forward to catching up with you. Family comes first,however, especially the missus.Here's hoping for a full recovery.

Tom C

Joe Rollings - Sat 02 Jun 2018 20:02:26 #0


Really sorry to hear of your wife's illness. Prayers up for her quick recovery.....Joe

Joe Rollings - Sat 02 Jun 2018 20:34:28 #0

Power hammer stuff

Power hammer is well along the road to completion, and have to come to a few decisions that would be a bit difficult to re-make after the fact.

Have a 7" mechanical stroke and guesstimate will have about 12" of combined total stroke. There is 16" of ram movement inside the guide, so I can do an additional 4" max of adjustment with the turnbuckle, and even more by adding and removing dies and anvil extensions.

The anvil top itself is about 10" deep, front to back and about 2 feet wide, side to side. It is an old tractor weight somewhere between 1000 and 1300 pounds, so the entire hammer may be near a ton, but it seems like I should put a smaller top on the anvil, like a 5 " round or square, up a few inches from the top of the weight, just because of the difficulty of finding a way to get tongs flat on the side of the hammering surface, if that makes sense. I have lots of material to choose from, including 3" square bar which I can double up on to make a 6" square, 3 inches high, or a 1" 16 X 16" plate I can cut any shape from.

I also have to choose what goes on the bottom of the ram. I have read endless discussions about dies V. bottom tools like spring fullers, etc. The ram is made from the 3" square bar, and it would be easy enough to put a 6" section of that crossways on the end of the ram and make a pins-in-holes arrangement to lock other 3" wide dies to that, but which might make it tougher to use bottom tooling.

So far, after I truly got started, things have gone really well, and I have made the guide with brass gibs inserted into milled slots and adjusting screws, got a removable plate system for the wheel and took far more time and care than I ever used to when building a machine, because at this age, my Grandson may wind up running it after I am gone, and it would suck for him to get hurt on my machine. Or anybody else, for that matter.

Of course, I realize most of the questions I have asked are up to the individual and have no 100% always-right answers, but anything along the lines of discussion about what causes the most frustration will help to make my choices. Once I have that guide mounted, it would be a major hassle to decide it needed to have a 6" block welded to or taken off of the anvil and the guide height changed.

I also wanted to add that if anybody has a surface they would like to add a hardy hole to, those same weld-on x series sprocket hubs come in square holes from about 3/4" to maybe 1 1/4", and one could drill a round hole topped with one of those and have a nice tight hardy hole.

Thanks in advance for any help......Joe

Chuck - Tue 05 Jun 2018 23:48:53 #0

Stuff and hammer

ALEX Sorry to hear about the Missus. Hoped she was doing better. Blessings to y'all you are on our prayer list.
JOE you need room to change dies and work your metal and tongs--fullers. I like the room on my Giant '50'.
I would like to have at least 6" clearance including top and bottom, more if possible.
I work around my hammers to 180 or 200 degrees. Sometimes a helper is holding tongs or fullers from a 90 to me.
My dies are close to three inches wide and as much as six inches long.
Hope this might be something you were wanting to know.
Blessings to the folks on 'Big Island'.
Cimarron, NM folks got to go back home. Ute Park, NM still has 200 dwellings threatened.

Joe Rollings - Thu 07 Jun 2018 22:41:05 #0

Glad to hear

that ute park still HAS 200 buildings. News made it sound like they were all gone.

Good stuff about the hammers, Chuck.....Thanks......Joe

Buck Brown - Fri 08 Jun 2018 12:20:54 #0

Anyone heard from Darrell?

We're in the high 90's here already. Need to make handles for 2 branding irons I made for a friend, so I better get it done soon.

Talked to a friend near Glenwood Springs, Colorado, my old home town. The Colorado River usually peaks after June 15th. It peaked the 1st of June this year at 50% of normal run off.

Darrell - Fri 08 Jun 2018 12:58:42 #0

Still here

Finished re-building the Bridgeport and now I am converting the Enco lathe to CNC.
Made the timing pulleys for that on the Bridgeport.
Pulled the engine on my 98 Forester and fixed the oil leak and put it back.
Next project is to re-build my power hammer and see if I can get it to run the way it should.

Alex Ivey - Fri 15 Jun 2018 17:00:12 #0

Joe & Chuck

I thank you both for your prayers concerning my wife's cancer and treatments. She is done with chemo and radiation and things are looking better at this point but only time will tell if everything she went through works out for her. Her doctor that did the operation and guided her through the treatments is very optimistic that she will have a full recovery Thanks again guys. LXIV,

Chuck - Sun 17 Jun 2018 01:45:54 #0

Alex Ivey

ALEX glad to hear a positive prognosis.
The bad part of growing older is the gradual--sometimes drastic downward spiral of our health.

Looks like my eye deal is permanent, I will find something to occupy my time. Garden is off to a good start.
We got an inch and a quarter Friday, with another sixty seven hundreds this afternoon. This old country is going to be green once again.
The prospects for more rain this coming week seems good.

Tonight Derek, our fifth grandson brought a ten foot piece of two inch draw bar stock. I would guess this steel to be 40 series steel.

DARRELL good luck amigo, the volcano seems to want to turn its self wrong side out.
Keep the gas masks handy. Meter the Sulphur Dioxide(sp) bad stuff.
Good night
God Bless

Tom C - Fri 22 Jun 2018 08:02:27 #0

Big doings in the Old Dominion

Well it's less than a week to the start of the ABANA Conference here in Virginia. Our gild has lent a bunch of equipment to help out. I've lent a Vulcan anvil to the Learning tent. It looks like the weather will be cooperative with PM showers on Thursday only. I look forward to seeing my metal mangler buds here on my home turf. Besides the gallery at the conference, there are 2 shows of metalwork in the area. Gallery Flux in Ashland has a show of various smiths & CVBG has a little exhibition at Artworx in Richmond. I invite anyone to get in touch with me for shop visits or a trip to Dominion Salvage on Southside for interesting metal doodads.

Darrell - Sat 30 Jun 2018 19:38:41 #0

CNC Mill

Well I have the CNC mill up and running. Just one major problem, I can't seem to get the darn thing to do what I wanted to do. It keeps doing exactly what I told it to do. Seeings as it refuses to learn I guess I'm just going to have to break down and teach myself.

Alex Ivey - Fri 06 Jul 2018 12:57:30 #0


So how was the conf. Sorry I had to miss it, LXIV,

Joe Rollings - Sat 07 Jul 2018 22:36:13 #0

still stroking

on that silly power hammer. The older I get the slower I get and the less sure of myself. 10 years ago I would have had it together in 1/4 the time and lived with how it turned out, but all of a sudden I am picky and questioning everything I do.

Ready to deal with the dies, and have noticed from reading that everybody who started out with flat dies is REALLY glad they did, while everybody who started out with changeable bolt-on or dovetail dies is ALSO really glad that they did. Go figure.

I looked at Clifton Ralf's die clamp and like it, but dunno if it will keep a top die in place or not. Not a good thing to be hit in the chest with if the clamp fails.

The top die attachment will be my last big decision, or perhaps deciding whether to just stick with flat dies and loose tooling. Anybody got any opinions to add that might help me make it?

Chuck, as you might recall, I gave up on my eyes for any precision work almost 20 years ago after being whacked with a jack handle and seeing curves where none existed. After a few years passed, my mind corrected what I was seeing and I got another decade of hand grinding silversmith tools off hand to REALLY tight tolerances. Take your pulse every morning. If you ain't dead, you ain't finished......Joe

Darrell - Sun 08 Jul 2018 00:22:47 #0

Change in the wind

Well working towards a new adventure. If I can sell this house in the near future
we will be moving to Eugene Oregon area. There is a lot to do to make this happen.
We need to get the extra stuff sold off and some minor repairs on the building
and then find somebody that wants to buy this place.

Chuck - Sun 08 Jul 2018 23:56:29 #0

DARRELL---We are with you. Anything we might be able help you with let us know. We have some twice removd cousins in Eugene.

I am like you I would just move on. I can imagine the day to day worry that everybody is experiencing over there.

Joe we have got a strong idler button over here. Can't stay hooked on a hoe handle very long at a time. Just now starting to get gather a little from the green patch.
We have had a total of just over three inches of moisture since September 30. Nine months and most of this came in small increments. We had one rain of 1.25 ---thought we had a flood. Grin. Could be worse---We have not had a fire or killer storm come through.
Blessings DARRELL hope everything works out alright.


Joe Rollings - Mon 09 Jul 2018 19:47:53 #0


Darrell, we moved 11 times in 50 years, and always recall those moves, the big ones at least, as times of big excitement and anticipation, with good cause. Born under a wandering star, I guess. Still get the urge from time to time, but I suspect we will finish up here.

One piece of unasked for advice, simply because I can't help myself.

In all of those moves, I cannot recall a single time when our previous house was sold by a realtor. Not that we have not tried them, but if they get an inkling that you are in a bit of a hurry to get the place sold, they will overprice it, go through all sorts of contortions to stall it off, then when they sense you are desperate, bring around a favored client that will kick some money back to them ro make an offer on it themselves.

Just saw that story get re-played again just down the road. Owner was happy that the realtor thought the place was worth so much and listed it so high, months dragged by, next thing you know, the realtor owned it for a pittance and now has it up for rent.

In the instances when we listed homes with realtors, the term expired and they cane around to relist, I refused, had it sold myself in about a month both times. Just saying......Joe

Darrell; - Mon 09 Jul 2018 22:33:14 #0


Thanks Joe. Not much in favor of agents myself. Seems they want a lot for not doing much of anything.

Darrell - Tue 10 Jul 2018 12:46:22 #0


The X axis ballscrew is working now I just have to get the Z axis going.

Loren T - Wed 11 Jul 2018 08:07:53 #0

Real estate agents

The town where we lived in the AZ mountains had a population of about 3000, 5000 plus cabins, and 7 real estate offices plus 3 new developments that had their own agents. I knew one couple who bought a cabin from one agent, then sold it and bought another one 3 more times over about 6 or 7 years. I lump real estate agents together with lawyers, accountants, and bankers. They produce NOTHING and merely live off the labors and heartaches of others. Years ago the Multiple Listing Service publication was like the holy grail and not to be shown to the general public. It was jealously guarded. Now you can take virtual tours via the internet put together by homeowners themselves. Sale documents are handled by a title company. Now who needs agents?

Darrell - Wed 11 Jul 2018 23:52:50 #0


I need 6 pieces of steel, 4340 or 5160 1/8 of an inch by 3/4 of an inch by 18 inches.
Where what I look for something like that? I could get away with 1 inch with but I am not having any luck finding anything close. Any help would be appreciated.

Joe Rollings - Thu 12 Jul 2018 11:05:24 #0


I dunno anything about 4340, but 5160 is all over the place in the form of auto leaf springs. I think you might have to split the width and forge the thickness down from about .200 which is a fair amount of work, but that would get you there.

I have been caught in those shopping "traps" where you spend lots more time searching than if you had just resolved to resize what is easy to get. The bi-metal bandsaw blades will split the leaf springs as-tempered and if you have a power hammer you can use a kiss block to beat the stuff to thickness.

You can copy and paste this to get to admiral steel's offerings of 5160;

Rotsa ruck......Joe

Joe Rollings - Thu 12 Jul 2018 11:13:08 #0


These guys have the right thickness but it would need to be ripped more narrow...


Chuck - Sun 15 Jul 2018 00:02:49 #0


DARRELL: The various steel sell about any steel you want. You may have to work it over a little.
The one steel outfit I have found with drops and the 18" --36" lengths is Amektek Steel. I will be in the shop tomorrow.
Freddie Haire told me about them. I kinda like them except I believe might be an Arab. company.
Good service, prices, assorted sizes.
If you have anybody building -off road vehicles-----Like from Jeeps-- They take the brand new coiled springs off the Jeeps. The 9/16" or 5/8" 5160 in these coiled springs works excellently.
You do have a hammer or press?
How much you need?
Dryer than a pop-corn fart out here.
I hope the lava flows have slowed up. We are not getting news about them now.

Chuck - Sun 15 Jul 2018 00:05:50 #0


AMETEK STEEL----I will be in the shop tomorrow for the right addy.

Chuck - Sun 15 Jul 2018 00:09:45 #0


AMTEK STEEL= This seems to be the National or Global addy.

Hope this helps.

Darrell - Sun 15 Jul 2018 13:23:49 #0


I ordered some 1095 from Adm. Steele because I figure it will do what I need It to do.
It came in the 0.125" x 1" x 18" that I needed. Thank you all for the help.

Tom C - Wed 25 Jul 2018 13:26:20 #0

Abana Conference pix

I've posted several pix from last month's Abana Conference. The first one is of "Bad" Roger Degner flexing his muscles. I'll put some more up later.

Joe Rollings - Wed 25 Jul 2018 20:22:49 #0

New hammer

OK, got the new 100 pound hammer far enough along to try a few beats. Still gotta build up a lot of welds, put in some braces, etc, but my foot was itching to caress that pedal.

Hits good and hard, machine is heavy enough to hold steady without hold-down bolts, but I need to get a bit more control. Can't make it just tap lightly. I think I may have messed up by spraying some belt dressing on the tire. Pretty grabby now. I also think I need to stiffen the spring, because just starting off with a 5 inch separation between the hammer and die it will kiss.

I will work it out, but any comments welcome....and thanks......Joe

Jeff Reinhardt - Wed 25 Jul 2018 20:29:23 #0

Joe's tire hammer

On my tire clutch powerhammer I have the steel roller "as turned" and no belt dressing. I have also found the sweet spot for tire pressure. It does make a big difference. I run mine at about 30 psi instead of the 50 for a spare tire use.I see some "denting" of the tire when the treadle is fully pressed. I also find that in changing weather I get condensation and that makes Too much slip

Joe Rollings - Sat 28 Jul 2018 22:02:27 #0

tire pressure

makes a profound difference....thanks.....Joe

Joe Rollings - Tue 31 Jul 2018 22:35:13 #0


is a sweetheart! Thought I was finished except for the paint, tossed a 3/4" hex nut, cold, on the flat die and closed it up tight in a half dozen beats, each beat well controlled. Later, the clamp that binds the ends of the spring leaves together sheared a 3/8" bolt, so I will have to bore them out for 1/2" bolts and put double-nuts on them, tack weld the clamps to the spring leaves. Other minor tuning and finishing, but that ultra controlled power tells me I am almost there.

My uncle I was named for told me once that "you have not lived if you have never throttled any steam", and I think the power hammer is a close substitute, at least when it works right.

Thanks, one and all, for your help. Can't believe I started building it in March. Time flies when you are having fun.....Joe

Bert - Wed 01 Aug 2018 10:27:39 #0

So Joe....

Pics when you can??? Inquiring minds and all that...


Joe Rollings - Thu 02 Aug 2018 14:16:12 #0


Yeah, I took some lousy ones yesterday, but will do a good bunch in a few days and post them. Might wait for the paint.... :) ...Joe

Darrell - Fri 10 Aug 2018 02:59:50 #0

Power hammer

Well I have most all the bugs worked out. I can do single blows, clamp,
pound light and pound heavy. The best part is that it is doing this on 35# of air pressure.
Here is a clip of it,

Chuck - Sun 12 Aug 2018 19:13:15 #0


DARRELL--Got a good lick and stick. Great on the low pressure. Hope things are going well on your planned move.
We don't hear anything on the news anymore.
Hope your health stays good.

JOE sounds like you got it coming your way. We are not using our shop much--
Gardening mostly. We did put some handles on blades that were ground years ago. Started carrying six inch Knipex pliers to favor stiff hands and THUMBS. Made a sheath for them put an A2 chisel ground inside the sheath behind the pliers. Could have been better designed.
Blessings to all
---send us a rain.

Tom C - Fri 17 Aug 2018 08:40:52 #0


I am a day or so from starting the engine in my '57 Chevy project. Some wiring, fluids & installing a temporary driver's seat & I can try it out. It's been an interesting 2 1/2 years.

I'm looking forward to taking a break & going to Quad States in a month. Who else is going?

Chuck, We have had 42" of rain so far this year in Richmond, about 18" more than normal. We could spare a foot or so if we were able.

Tom C

Jeff Reinhardt - Tue 21 Aug 2018 17:24:10 #0

Quad State

I am goiang as I and the BFH team are the Friday Night demo! :)

Loren T - Fri 24 Aug 2018 14:05:09 #0


How are you faring with the hurricane? Hope all is well.

Loren T - Fri 24 Aug 2018 14:06:14 #0

Meant for Darrell

Lane is the hurricane

Darrell - Fri 24 Aug 2018 14:22:12 #0


Here in Ocean View we have renamed it to Hurricane Lame. So far we have 1.5" of rain
and a gust of 36 mph. Hasn't even tipped over the plastic lawn chair.

Loren T - Sat 25 Aug 2018 08:07:26 #0


That's good news. When we lived in Lake Stevens, WA, storms from the west would hit the Olympic peninsula. There they would split and come back together right over us. It is known as the convergence zone. Now that we are living in Eucha, OK, storms from the west split just before reaching us, putting us squarely in the divergence zone. Don't know how this relates to blacksmithing, except that sometimes I really miss my shop in the mountains of Arizona. Forge work is much more comfortable with 7-10% humidity rather than the 84% it is here.

Darrell - Sat 25 Aug 2018 15:00:42 #0

Hurricane Lame

Well Lame has broken up. We have got about 3" more rain. Our 12,500 gal. tank is
almost full again. It should be full by Wednesday. We depend on rain for water.
It's called "Catchment system". So far we haven't had to buy water for the last 2 years.

Joe Rollings - Mon 27 Aug 2018 10:12:36 #0

Got lost in the heat

A couple of weeks ago I either dehydrated or caught a bug and started getting dizzy, then started getting so dizzy I barfed and barfed. I thought I was low on salt, but doc says there is a bug that affects the inner ear and people get so dizzy they cannot sit up and barf until they pass out. Sounds about right. She says it takes 2 weeks to get back from it, and that sounds about right, too.

Going for paint for the hammer tomorrow if everything lines up right, and I seem to be back straight again, so here we go!

I will post hammer pics when it is painted, but I wanted to point out that one can "tune" those leaf springs on a hammer pretty well with the two "bundle clamps" that hold the ends of the spring bundles together.

A weak spring makes it hit harder but you lose some control and a strong spring makes it not hit so hard but you can control it better. To strengthen the spring, lose some impact strength, gain some control, move the bundle clamps as far from the center as you can and still capture all of the leaves in the clamps.

To gain impact strength, sacrifice some control, you weaken the spring by moving the clamps closer together, away from the ends of the bundle. One caution, the more you weaken the spring bundle, the longer the stroke, so you could start hitting the guide with the hammer head.....Talk to y'all soon....Joe

bruce godlesky - Thu 30 Aug 2018 07:01:44 #0


That inner ear bug must be all over the country. Got it her ein w Pa. Twice actually. Thought it might be the wet humid conditions we have had all summer.
Rather annoying at times, stand up and dizziness puts ya right back down!

Had a really close call in the shop last weekend. Had a pair of guys here learning the Damascus process. Let a hot billet get away from me. Smacked me right between the eyes. Didn't even see it coming..... Lucky fer sure!! Not many options on a Saturday afternoon for repairs, so ER it was. 6 stitches. YOW!!
It actually cauterized part of the wound. Gals attending said I had made their afternoon since they don't get many knifemakers/smiths on a regular basis (BOG)

On another note, I think I can make the trek across Ohio to Quad States this yr.
Gonna meet 10 Hammers there and who knbows who else.....

Loren T - Thu 30 Aug 2018 08:16:47 #0


I have had my share stitches throughout the years. One time I was laying on the table while a doctor put 7 or 8 stitches in my scalp. The local nurse practitioner ran into my wife in the hallway and asked what she was doing at the hospital. She came in the emergency room and asked if they were taking good care of me. Later when I got the bill, there was a $90 consult fee from her! (Which I didn't pay). Now is a good time to review the cautionary tale of Paw Paw Wilson's tangle with a grinder across the street. It has accompanying pictures. I NEVER use a bench grinder that I don't think about that.

bruce godlesky - Thu 30 Aug 2018 09:16:44 #0


not the 1st time for me :-) I've gotten to the point where superglue is my friend. This time, no.

Sure are a multitude of ways to hurt yourself in the shop. I'm familiar with a lot of them, heheheh

Joe Rollings - Sat 01 Sep 2018 11:27:11 #0


I have had a lot of grinder injuries and they are especially prone to infection, but my most humorous set of stitches was in Miami, New Mexico. We lived just a mile or so from the doc and it was a weekend, but he always told us to drop by if we needed anything, so my wife drove my tore-up hand and me over to his house and he sat me down at the dining room table, washed it up, and was fixing to start sewing when his wife came into the room and told him it just was not right to have his spit-cup on the table when he was stitching me up, so he threw it in the trash outside, changed gloves, got down to business.

He was a guy who always had his black bag with him, like the old timey docs of yesteryear......Joe

bruce godlesky - Mon 03 Sep 2018 11:06:13 #0


Joe, sounds like a good ol boy to have in the neighborhood!!

Tom C - Wed 05 Sep 2018 13:05:58 #0

Big day yesterday

I started the engine in my '57 Chevy restomod project yesterday. After 2 years & 8 months, it's come alive. The engine is from a 2011 Silverado & was an order of magnitude more complicated to install & get running than a stock setup. I have a date with the painters next Friday.

Tom C

Chuck - Sun 09 Sep 2018 00:45:18 #0

Grandson's car wreck

Our Grand-son CY WAGNER had a bad car wreck at 1:00 Monday the 13TH of August.
He is still in ICU at Northwest Hospital in Amarillo.
He did a number on his head. Still not really awake. Seems to be his own self part of the time but not much. He is going to be laid up for a long while.
The Doctors think he will recover because of his age and health.
He is in a neck brace to hold his head up and back when they set him up.
Sure hard watching a 27 year old that is helpless as a new born. He was and will be again as tough as a junk yard dog.
It is going to take us a spell to get there.
Any unused prayers would be appreciated.
God Bless

Jeff Reinhardt - Sun 09 Sep 2018 07:07:33 #0


Prayers being sent Chuck

bruce godlesky - Sun 09 Sep 2018 20:44:49 #0

Sandpiles grandson

Had a serious TBI near 20 yrs ago. It's a long road but not impossible with a lot of prayer and gumption.
Kneemail sent!!

Tom C - Wed 12 Sep 2018 08:03:20 #0

Looks like we'll get some serious weather here on the East Coast. The hurricane has taken a turn to the left a little so it might not be as bad for us in Virginia, but the coastal Carolinas look to get pasted, again. Last time we had a hurricane come through Richmond, Gaston in 2004, there was widespread flooding from all the rain.It was good we had a flood wall because it kept all the cars from getting flushed into the James River.

bruce godlesky - Wed 12 Sep 2018 20:15:58 #0


keep yer waterwings handy Tom!
We had near 7 inches here in w Pa last weekend. Pretty uncommon. Ready for some warm dry again....

Jeff Reinhardt - Thu 13 Sep 2018 16:29:36 #0

Tom C be very careful. We got 6.5" here last weekend, I can't imagine 20".

Chuck - Thu 13 Sep 2018 19:01:45 #0

Cy & storm.

TOM I hope all of you on the right coast get by this huge rain/wind-storm.
It has let up a little on the high wind part of the storm but is so slow moving it is going to dump a tub of water, and a relentless wind will find a hold somewhere to tear things a part. A slow moving storm with even 60 or 70 MPH can rip things apart.
CY WAGNER our second Grand-son is having a time of it. He has not moved his feet or right hand as yet. He had lung surgery Tuesday. It was successful.
They put a electric toothbrush in his hand this morning. He eventually got the brush part in his mouth. VICTORY.
Looks like he is going to have to learn it all over--Everything--Maybe we can clean up his vocabulary a little.
We have been blessed with tons of prayers from all over.
BRUCE your head heal up?

bruce godlesky - Thu 13 Sep 2018 22:04:06 #0

Sandpiles grandson

Ya, my heads all healed up , at least it ain't leakin' anymore.....

That relearning stuff is not a bad thing, tho it didn't help MY vocabulary(BOG)
19 yrs ago this month I decided I wasn't going to set on the porch and vegatate any longer. Ordered a Grizzly knife grinder and began an interesting journey. I attempted going back to my former occupation as an autobody repairman. Found I had to relearn everything I had learnt in the past 28 yrs. Not a fun time.....
About the same time became aware of this thing called the internet. Discovered there were guys making things from hot metal.
It's been quite a journey since then!! So Chuck, give Cy all the encouragement ya can! He's gonna be a bit different than the guy you formerly knew but that's OK too.

Chuck - Sat 15 Sep 2018 00:29:18 #0

Relearning and staying to the line.

CYRUS TYLER WAGNER-- Is about as hard-headed and determined as anyone you will ever meet. The family moved almost every year to another town for their Dad to keep teaching in NM.
Three boys --four years apart. It got to where they would just toe the mark--tell the new town toughies to send out the best. The pecking order was straightened right quick. The boys have friends scattered all over the state.
CY and Brady played in the state finals in BB and FB . Lost each by a point and one touch-down.
I am aware of how hard a road CY has got. Brady has not left the hospital except to clean up. Cy's wife and Mother have stayed everyday and night.
It has been 30 days since his accident.
Pneumonia along with the head injuries, broke the front off his face, both eye orbits, top jaw, bottom jaw not so bad. Completely bed ridden just barely conscious.
He has no control of anything but his left hand. He is dragging his right hand around by his ID bracelet.
Motions for his Mom to prop up his head. He has figured out how to 'thumbs up' when they figure out what he wants.
Treach in, ventilator in, feeding tube in. One eye open.
Best demonstration of pure guts I have ever seen. It may take a year or two years but this guy will be back.
He has lots of moral support. It is going to financially break every damn one of us. But we did not have anything when we started this old life--We can go out the same way.
Just needed to let folks know how tough a tussle my second grand-son is into.

Darrell - Sat 15 Sep 2018 01:23:30 #0


I know there is hope. I myself have gone from full paralyzed on the right side and part
paralyzed on the left to a full recovery in a little over one year.
Physical therapy got me started in the 1st month after the stroke, actually after the 2 strokes 1 of which happened in the hospital.
That one was the worst. As soon as I got some motion, I went to the mouse and keyboard
on my computer and started working bookkeeping and taxes. I was using my right hand
which I had the least control of to work the mouse to improve coordination.
We will keep CY in our prayers. We have experience with answered prayer.

bruce godlesky - Wed 19 Sep 2018 07:01:18 #0

"we have experience with answeresd prayer" YEP!!!!

See some of you at Troy, I hope!

Tom C - Mon 24 Sep 2018 15:34:46 #0

Quad States

I got back from Quad States last night at 11:00 after driving through West Virginia in the rain. I was a good conference with a hugh amount of tailgating.Anvil asking prices seemed to have taken a jump. For instance,I saw a 100 lb. Vulcan anvil someone had for $440. There were a few good deals to be had & I was there mainly for the comraderie, anyway. There seemed to be a few more younger folks showing up which is good.I'm sorry I didn't see you there Bruce. I should have given you our location, I suppose. Anyway, John Fee had his Blacksmiths' Stew on Friday evening & I did a couple of pork shoulders on the ol' Weber for Saturday. I was fun to see Jeff Reinhardt & his crew make a couple of their big crosses for Friday nite's main demo. Good job. Jeff. All in all, another fine event.

Tom C

Jeff Reinhardt - Mon 24 Sep 2018 18:04:37 #0

Quad State

Had a great time, my team made 2 each of the 3" crosses and an great time was had by all.

bruce godlesky - Mon 24 Sep 2018 22:17:26 #0

quad state

Tom C , prolly saw ya and couldn't put the name to a face. Met so many folks I've talked with over the years! I was really surprised how many I did know! Saw a lotta folks I know from the trapping fraternity too! Quite a crossover!

Jeff , your gang really out on a great demo!! Good talkin' with ya!

Did Billy Epps judge the smithing competition Saturday nite? I headed home late afternoon.

John Fee sure did a great job on the possum stew!!

Tom C - Tue 25 Sep 2018 13:14:31 #0

If you were at John's eating Possum stew, I saw you, or you, me. I was the tall guy with the grubby SOFA hat & kinda long beard.
We'll talk next time.

Tom C

Brian C. - Tue 25 Sep 2018 17:50:28 #0


Another one in the books. The Blonde and I didn't see much of the demonstrations, too busy visiting with old friends. John Fee and Tom Chenoweth both put on fine meals, thanks again for the hospitality. A great event.

bruce godlesky - Tue 25 Sep 2018 22:28:50 #0


Yep, we were at JohnFees possum dinner :-) Came in with TenHammers, Keith Sommers and Bill Epps. The grubbyhay/long beard description fits a large percentage of attendees Ha!

Tom C - Wed 26 Sep 2018 09:08:01 #0

Yeah, I guess it does. I don't suppose adding that I had a slight limp (plantars wart on left foot) & a ponytail helps either.

I took my '57 Chevy project to the painters last Wednesday so now I can attend to stuff I've let slide. After I straighten up the shop first, of course. A car restoration project is the ultimate mixed media piece.

Tom C

Mike B - Wed 26 Sep 2018 18:46:42 #0


I've meaning to ask how you put a late-model engine in a old car. Do you have to try to transplant all the computer stuff, or is there an aftermarket kit to connect it up?


Tom C - Thu 27 Sep 2018 12:03:41 #0

It's quite a challenge, Mike & one which, had I known how difficult it would be, wouldn't have done. Luckily, there is a forum devoted to '55, '56 & '57 Chevys which proved invaluable to this project. Yes, There are aftermarket kits to hook up the electronics but that's the simple part...... This being a site devoted to smithing, I won't post a litany of what else you have to do to put a 2011 truck engine & transmission into a 61 year old car, but if you're going to Spring Fling, I'll probably have it there & will point out the salient details to you then.

Tom C

Mike B - Thu 27 Sep 2018 19:09:24 #0

Look forward to seeing it (and, more importantly, you) in April!

Loren T - Sun 07 Oct 2018 22:17:45 #0


I was looking through the gallery and came across a bunch of pics posted by Ellen. i know a while back some were asking about her, not having heard for a while. I noticed that Sandpile had sent some stuff back and forth with her. I have visited her at her home 4 years ago or so, but don't remember exactly where it is. Anyone know updated information?

Chuck - Sun 07 Oct 2018 22:48:28 #0


LOREN T. I will have to see if I can find the addy.
ELLEN lived in Apache Junction.
Her sister called here and Helen spoke to her.
Ann Reid was Ellens name. I think. Here sister said Ellen had had some serious strokes then had another. Her sister she was in bad shape. Later e called the number and got no answer.
We suspect Ellen has passed.
JOHN LARSON might still have address.

We were going to out to Phoenix, stopping at Joe Rolling's and then Ellen's. I got sick and we did not go.

Tom C - Mon 08 Oct 2018 10:08:48 #0

I visited Ellen a couple of times a few years ago & she stayed with us when she took a motorcycle trip East about 10 years ago. I tried calling her but got a recorded message. She was an accountant who did peoples' taxes & one of the numbers was for a fax machine. I have her address somewhere but I won't put it up here. I, too, suspect she has passed.

Tom C

Loren T - Tue 09 Oct 2018 10:22:59 #0

Motorcycle Trip

I remember her posting about that trip. If I remember correctly she had bought an Iron Kiss hammer and went to take a class on using it from John Larson.

Joe Rollings - Wed 10 Oct 2018 13:56:11 #0

Prayers up

for Cy Wagner. That is a REALLY tough break, but I betcha he will overcome it in spite of the hardship.

Sorry I have been missing for a while, just sorting out a lot of false starts on my next adventure. Got the power hammer done, and boy is it a hitter, but not sure yet if I am the man for it. 100 pounds of hammer on a 1300 pound anvil sometimes can do more damage than good to a project. Not really accustomed to long learning curves any more I have been doing the same stuff over and over again for so long.

Hammer is not even bolted down, just sits there and wiggles a tiny bit because the floor is not flat. Almost any crowned die, no matter how large the radius, leaves big old dents. Maybe I need to be making bigger stuff so the dents don't show so much BOG.....Joe

Tom C - Thu 11 Oct 2018 08:52:38 #0

Loren, she was also a history buff & toured many of the historic sites in Virginia regarding the Revolutionary & Civil wars. I think there's a pic of her & her bike in the photo gallery under my name. I was impressed that she made that trip, solo, at her age. She was a tough one.

Tom C

Buck Brown - Thu 11 Oct 2018 12:22:14 #0


I remember when Ellen first got her power hammer. She was discussing what to name it and decided on Thor.
There's a pic somewhere of her on a tall Thoroughbred bay horse. Seems she had a cabin or something up in the hills near Apache Junction.

Tom C - Fri 12 Oct 2018 10:54:09 #0

If you click on her name in the Gallery, there's a pic of her on her horse. The caption says that her cabin was in New Mexico.

Tom C

Bruce Blackistone (Atli) - Sun 14 Oct 2018 14:47:05 #0


Pax vobiscum.

Tom C - Wed 31 Oct 2018 09:34:49 #0

Well, it's been a while since anyone's posted. As for me, I've been busy doing shop & home maintenance while my car project is at the painter's. I have a project making a couple of fireplace screens for one of my good clients, & am looking forward to the next CVBG meeting at one of our members new shop.

Chuck, you still okay?

Happy Halloween, everyone!

Tom C

bruce godlesky - Thu 01 Nov 2018 14:51:52 #0

Same here Tom. Winter get-ready, growin' the woodpile, makin' knives and hawks and a lil bit of huntin' thrown in for good measure.

Cleaned up hydraulic press dies. Think I'll heat treat them this time. H13. 45rc good ???

Chuck - Thu 01 Nov 2018 23:04:52 #0


TOM C.--We are still kicking, just not as high as we used to.

We have been putting in a lot of miles between here and Amarillo.
Cy Wagner our second grand-son is 80 days into recovery from a head injury from a car wreck.
Cy was moved today back to a hospital called Vibra. When he got there.
The nurse said to his Mama "Y'all have mail even before you got back".

Our own Bruce Godlesky had sent Cy a hat or cap. I have not seen it yet. Cy had been sent back to ICU at the Northwest Texas Hospital. They took the skull flap out and threw it away. He will fitted for a Titanium plate. Until then Cy has his own crash helmet.
BRUCE --We do appreciate the cap. I know you had a rough deal to recover from.
I hope and pray Cy can do as well.
Helen and my health are not bad just need tending to. Rotoroot the neck, a monitoring chip. Helen is having real nagging , hanging on pain(the kind that can wear you down)R. Arthritis is a biting bitch.
We do need any extra prayers anybody has to spare for CY. He six year son is in the hospital right now for Pneumonia. He will be alright.

The knife community has sure been great for CY. Mike Miller has led the charge. Knife people are as good as they come.
Blessings to all

Tom C - Fri 02 Nov 2018 09:54:46 #0

Great to hear the encouraging news, Chuck. We're fortunate to live in a time where serious health issues can be dealt with.

Tom C

plain ol Bill - Mon 12 Nov 2018 21:40:06 #0

Chuck - brrrrrrrr

Got your ear muffs on today Chuck? Winter has come to your neighborhood. Hope it goes away for awhile cause we will be passing thru a little south of you next week.

bruce godlesky - Tue 13 Nov 2018 14:46:21 #0

lookin' for prayers

Just heard from ol Sweany. he went in for a heart cath this morning and they kept him, lookin' to do 3 by-passes.
I'm sure he could use the kneemail!

Alex Ivey - Wed 14 Nov 2018 22:01:44 #0


Bruce, thanks for posting on Sweany's heart problems, one can't get to much kneemail when health problems get you down. Kneemail from me. LXIV,

Buck Brown - Thu 15 Nov 2018 10:49:01 #0


Knee mail up!
Winter came at least a month early here.
Finished a pair of branding irons for a friend in Colorado. He wants to wood burn a sign for his driveway. Just need to put handles on them.

Alex Ivey - Thu 15 Nov 2018 22:36:27 #0

Back at the forge

Finally got healed from the surgery I had back at the end of August and back forging and doing some high voltage electrical inspection work. Pays a lot more than blacksmithing and almost as much fun. Posted a photo of 4 hat trees, last of my orders from the NM state fair. Note the 2 baseball caps on the tree on the left. First time for caps but the lady customer said that's what she wanted. LXIV,

Chuck - Fri 16 Nov 2018 16:06:26 #0

Catching Up

SWEANEY-- Best of luck. Do what the doc say;
Nurse watching Sweaney::: Tape his socks to his ankles so you an get away from him around the corners. God Bless Sweaney.
ALEX--Good to hear you are back up and going. Nice work.
BUCK It cooled down over also. Had some snow, got down to nine degrees. Another cool week-end coming up.
PLAIN OLE BILL--Where you headed>
BRUCE --CY is gaining a little each week. Going to be a long slow climb back of that deep hole. But he will make it.
TOM C- It is true the Docs can do great things if the Lord will help them a little.

plain ol Bill - Fri 16 Nov 2018 19:11:05 #0

Chuck reply

Chuck we are headed out of western Washington to Rockport on the coast to spend the cold months. Will stop off in Cowtown to visit sister and nieces for Thanksgiving then head on south.

Chuck - Wed 21 Nov 2018 21:57:23 #0


Well, We have made another year.
It seems that we are bogged down walking in soft sand.
The first thing you know, we have made another year.

This has been quite a year for all of us.
The fires, hurricanes, volcanos, droughts, floods, wrecks, strokes.
There seems to be no end to what we have had to stand strong against.

The Good Lord has given us the strength, determination, intelligence to withstand the onslaughts from different directions.
It is with great joy and happiness they are all still plugging along in our various modes of transport.
Some have fallen by the wayside, but they have gone to a better place and will be holding us a spot.
In our personal life. We have had one precious grand-son, CY WAGNER have a terrible car wreck. Cy Is stepping up with the Lord's help and many, many people praying for him.
He is progressing each day. Only the Lord knows how far Cy can make it back, but Cy is plodding along, struggling each day to get back to normal.
One of Cy's twin sisters had her daughter Maisie, Yesterday morning, we have many blessing in our lives.
I hope and pray that everybody can have a great day tomorrow, with a safe trip for all.

j - Thu 22 Nov 2018 06:55:05 #0


I wish everyone a Happy Thanksgiving, and prayers for all that need them.

Tom C - Thu 22 Nov 2018 08:55:05 #0

Happy thanksgiving!

Tom C

Darrell - Thu 22 Nov 2018 15:29:53 #0


Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

Joe Rollings - Mon 26 Nov 2018 22:31:33 #0

Blessings to all of you

I am still trying to stand up and do the work, but am fading faster every year. started up being painful to heat 'em and beat 'em, but now painful to just stand on the concrete.

New power hammer helps a lot because the way I built it you almost have to sit down on a stool to operate the pedal.

Don't mind me, I just quit the Vicodin because of side effects and started something else. Better days ahead, one way or another....God bless.....Joe

Joe Rollings - Mon 26 Nov 2018 22:32:31 #0

Blessings to all of you

I am still trying to stand up and do the work, but am fading faster every year. started up being painful to heat 'em and beat 'em, but now painful to just stand on the concrete.

New power hammer helps a lot because the way I built it you almost have to sit down on a stool to operate the pedal.

Don't mind me, I just quit the Vicodin because of side effects and started something else. Better days ahead, one way or another....God bless.....Joe

bruce godlesky - Thu 29 Nov 2018 08:27:14 #0


Heard from Mike this week. Sounds like they did a batch of bypasses on him. Said he was glad to set up in a chair for a change :-)

Chuck - Sun 02 Dec 2018 23:58:18 #0

Nosing around.

BRUCE Is this Sweaney from Sulphur Oklahoma?
Hope he is kicking right along.
MILLS is another Okie I wonder about often.
Bill & DIANE DAVIS--Lazy Assed forge. Fine folks. Wonder about them.
Saltcreek Blacksmithing bunch?
JOE ROLLINGS--It is hell when the years start coming too fast.
DARRELL-- The noise quieted down about the volcano. Everything alright over there?
TOM C.-- Did you get your chev to the paint man?
TWO of my Grand sons went after a '97 Silverado suburban. They had to go all the way to Lake Arthur, NM. The suburban is in Elida, NM
The Daddy of one of them had wrecked his truck. They took home for him.
The Suburban is 4 wheel drive and every thing in the drive train, motor and all.
Will fit in my '96 Z71. My Z71 needs the motor, 5.7.

The Grand-son, Cy Wagner that was in the bad wreck, is gradually crawling out of the deep whole he is in. He still cannot talk or swallow, can't stand or walk by himself or sit-up. He is working hard on all this.
Cy has started to growl when he needs something, has got some control of his right hand. He is tough, determined, he will be back but is having to fight hard for everything he is getting back. Cy still needs all the prayers.
Blessings to all

Darrell - Mon 03 Dec 2018 12:24:48 #0


The volcano has gone almost completely dormant. There is no measurable SO2 and the air is the clearest it's been 12 years.

Tom C - Mon 03 Dec 2018 14:06:29 #0

Hi Chuck, the painter said it will be done next Monday or Tuesday. Then the fun starts up again as I put the shiny bits back on.

Glad to hear Cy is making progress even though it's slow going.

Darrell, clean air is a good thing.

Tom C

bruce godlesky - Tue 04 Dec 2018 09:00:48 #0


Sandpile, Sweany is from Sand Springs OK. Got an email last night, he's headed home today!.
With Cy, it's gonna be 3 steps forward one back. Don't get discouraged......btdt

Tom C lookin' forward to seein' that car upon completion!!

Been hunting deer for a week and a half. Need some shop time. Making Damascus arrowheads for the guys I shoot with :-) Gonna be action packed 3 weeks til Christmas.
No rest for the wicked.....

Darrell - Tue 04 Dec 2018 13:11:42 #0

No rest for the wicked

Don't worry. There is no rest for the rest of us either.

Bert - Wed 05 Dec 2018 11:12:08 #0

So Darrell

You still thinking of moving to The People's Republic of Eugene (well, actually all of Lane Cnty)?

News broke yesterday that the city is going to modify it's contract with the local Nat. Gas company to Actively Discourage people from using it to heat their homes or cook with... Wood is discouraged, and often prohibited during winter inversions when you need it most, electricity is expensive (not as bad as CA but they want to get there), coal is banned and being phased completely out of Oregon, nuclear is unthinkable and the Governor wants 50K electric cars on the roads by 2020, as well as a boatload of new taxes & fees, gun control and control of 'climate change' and everything you eat, think, do and are...

How do they expect folks to heat their home and live? Oh yeah, those wind mills and solar panels, which are more expensive than all of the above even With all the government subsidies and after 20+ years of development provide only about 2% of the power in the grid in Orygun...

Darrell - Wed 05 Dec 2018 13:27:27 #0


Our plans to move to Oregon have been discarded.
Our research has found that Oregon is more expensive than Hawaii.
Now that the volcano has settled down and the air is clear we decided to stay here
where the house and car are paid for. Instead of moving we plan to just visit occasionally.

Bert - Wed 05 Dec 2018 15:46:35 #0

Good to Hear Darrell

Yes, it's expensive here and about to get a lot worse. Lot's to be said for just staying where you are and putting up w/ the occasional tantrum from the volcano.

I'd have been gone from here 10 years ago but the wife has her nest, business and medical network (Crohn's Disease) here. Also she was born and grew up in SoCal so there's also the "it can't be anywhere colder than here" requirement. The two states above and below OR are worse 'blue-wise', Nevada & Arizona have been thoroughly Californicated and I don't do well in cities, traffic jams or around crowds of people...

Worked and traveled around the country and world enough before I retired to know I can't/don't want to live anywhere East of a line North to South through Denver... And even though there are something like 19 species of game birds on the Parker Ranch and I've harvested my share of wild pigs (the Hawaiian way) I get rock fever after a few months, even on the Big Island.

If the volcano gets to you, my mom and sis live in Kamuela (on the dormant volcano) and are quite happy.

bruce godlesky - Thu 06 Dec 2018 06:50:09 #0

Bert.... 19 species of game birds.... where is this place??? I'd have to get another setter or 2 :-)
Darrell, rest is hard to find ........

Bert - Thu 06 Dec 2018 11:54:28 #0

Parker Ranch

Bruce, I checked w/ my sis to be sure and it's only 13 species of birds (Oh, darn!) The ranch is huge and runs from sea level to about 8K feet on the North end of the Big Island; Hawaii. It's on and around Mauna Kea which is the biggest volcano, above the water, in Hawaii. Headquarters are in Waimea/Kamuela, a town on the West side of the Mountain.

There's also a couple kinds of goats, some bada** pigs (hunted the Hawaiian way means with a good pair of boots, a couple of even more bada** little dogs, and a big 'pig sticker') and if you aren't careful at night, you might crash into a wild donkey in certain places.

If I ever get my forge fired up again I'm going to try a couple of Damascus pig stickers for one of my nephews.

bruce godlesky - Thu 06 Dec 2018 13:09:19 #0


Bert, that's still a buncha different birds!! Sounds like some interesting ideas for an otherwise layin' on the beach vacation! I know they have a good turkey population on the Islands.

Hope to see some pictures of your pig stickers.....

Joe Rollings - Sun 09 Dec 2018 21:12:48 #0

If somebody wants solitude

I have a couple of 20 acre parcels for sale here. Depending on the direction you drive, 50 to 100 miles to the nearest stop light, if we hear an engine we go to the window and see who is here, because NOBODY drives down our road but us.

You can relieve yourself in the middle of the road, beat iron, yodel, nobody to hear or see. About 1300 acres and a dozen residences, property has it's own gravel pit and rifle range, adjoining thousands of acres one is free to roam at will.

Outside Rodeo, New Mexico.....Joe

Joe Rollings - Sun 09 Dec 2018 21:13:26 #0

If somebody wants solitude

I have a couple of 20 acre parcels for sale here. Depending on the direction you drive, 50 to 100 miles to the nearest stop light, if we hear an engine we go to the window and see who is here, because NOBODY drives down our road but us.

You can relieve yourself in the middle of the road, beat iron, yodel, nobody to hear or see. About 1300 acres and a dozen residences, property has it's own gravel pit and rifle range, adjoining thousands of acres one is free to roam at will.

Outside Rodeo, New Mexico.....Joe

Joe Rollings - Sun 09 Dec 2018 21:13:28 #0

If somebody wants solitude

I have a couple of 20 acre parcels for sale here. Depending on the direction you drive, 50 to 100 miles to the nearest stop light, if we hear an engine we go to the window and see who is here, because NOBODY drives down our road but us.

You can relieve yourself in the middle of the road, beat iron, yodel, nobody to hear or see. About 1300 acres and a dozen residences, property has it's own gravel pit and rifle range, adjoining thousands of acres one is free to roam at will.

Outside Rodeo, New Mexico.....Joe

Loren T - Thu 13 Dec 2018 07:21:03 #0

20 acres

Joe: I noticed that you posted 3 times. Is that because real estate is all about Location, Location, Location? 10 acres where I live in NE Oklahoma is isolated enough for me. My son built the house we now live in several years ago. It's 3000 square feet. It also has a 40 x 50 shop.(See picture under my name). The nearest town, Jay, is about 16 miles away. He figured out that with he and his wife, 4 kids, work, church, and school, they were making a minimum of 4 round trips a day to town. sometimes as many as 6 or 7. He bought a house in town with 17 acres and they save enough on gas to make the house payment. Not to mention time saved. This place is free and clear, so our rent goes to taxes and insurance. My wife now has her quilting machine set up and has started holding classes here.

Buck Brown - Thu 13 Dec 2018 15:24:21 #0


Sandpile e-mailed me awhile back and said his puter had dropped this site and could I send him the addy so he could get back on.

I sent it to him, but have not heard back from him. I sent two more notes asking if he was receiving my mail, and haven't heard anything for a couple weeks.

Maybe I have his addy wrong. If any of you have his addy could you please send him what he needs? Thanks in advance, Buck. Also, ask him to e-mail me so I can verify his addy.

Darrell - Thu 13 Dec 2018 18:54:52 #0


I reset his password for him on the 4th.




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